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You're listening to Jackie Petru and Sweet Liberty
And now, here's your host, Jackie Petru
Do I have you?
Yeah
It isn't past nine o'clock, is it?
It's right on now
Well, maybe we're not going to have our intro tonight
All right, ladies and gentlemen
Give it
Yes, are you there?
I am
Did you just hear a squeal?
That's real, yeah
I hope we're on the air, I don't know if we are or not
But folks, if we are on the air, thank you for tuning in tonight to Sweet Liberty
And I am Jackie Petru, your hostess
Normally when I dial us in, I can hear the commercial before and then the opening song, Sweet Liberty song
And that's why I'm not so sure I'm on the air
Sweet Liberty is Wednesday, and it is the 27th of September in the year 2006
And Alan, what is our guest this evening?
Alan, thanks for being here tonight
Yes, it's a pleasure, I was forgetting myself what month it was
We were, you really?
Yeah, but you were thinking about what month is it?
Well, it goes so fast
It does go so fast, so it's raining there in Canada, it's raining here in beautiful Pennsylvania
And that just seems, I just for some reason felt that we were going to be having a very beautiful Indian summer
I was looking forward to it with all the rain because other than the first two weeks in May
It's never been dry here Alan
This whole last weekend beyond that, it was raining and it's been pouring pretty well all day steadily
But mind you, when the clouds are breaking up sometimes in between rain showers
I can see the higher clouds which are the trails of the aircraft
The chemtrails, uh-huh
They're still above the lower clouds, yeah?
Uh-huh
Yeah, so they're laying it on thick
Well, I don't know if I mentioned this on the air before, but maybe I have
I do know that I repeat myself, but you never know who you've told something to
When you're talking to a lot of people
Here in Pennsylvania, we moved in in late 95, but when we were looking at the property
She said that they were in a drought condition
And had been for a couple three years up here in northern Pennsylvania north-central
And I asked her if the farmers had irrigation
And she said no because they'd never needed it
And then it was back, I believe, maybe 2000
I don't know how, I mean the time, no it wasn't
It was 2002 towards the end of the term, the legislative session
Uh, they passed a water bill
And the water bill they passed was a real dozer, I mean it was just loaded
Which will be, of course, encouraging the local, the townships and the counties to start monitoring well water
And because of the drought, I mean that's why everything was in the bill
Because it had been in a drought condition for so many years
Right after, well it was a beautiful, it was, 2002 was a beautiful fall
It was a beautiful, warm, dry, gorgeous leaf, you know, all of the different types of trees
Just awesome, and that dog on bill got passed
And it was spring of 2003 when it started raining here
My garden has been drowned out, well two years in a row
And this year I was never able to get it in, Alan
So as soon as they got that bill passed, and if anybody listening thinks that that's just a coincidence, folks
You gotta start opening your eyes, opening your ears
And don't believe it just because you hear it, but start doing your own research
You know Alan, that's the thing that gets me is when somebody
And I'm not talking about our listeners, I don't think they'd be listening to this broadcast
If you know they were deniers going into denial, but people you will talk to intelligent people
Will say, I don't believe that, that's not possible
I had a friend here, a very intelligent person
We were talking, I was mentioned weather control, he said that's impossible
The weather's too big, it can't be controlled
And I was telling him some things, he said you're not going to convince me
I said, no I don't want to convince you Greg, but I hope that you're curious enough
To maybe say, well I'd like some information on that, I'd like you to prove it
You know, be curious enough to ask for some documentation, I'll be glad to provide it
He didn't say no thank you, he just dropped the subject
And Alan, that is, what is that?
When a person doesn't even say, are you serious?
Oh come on, give me a break, prove it to me
What is it?
Well it's a person who has, well the reality, they've been trained to believe in
And it's augmented by their growing up watching the Six o'clock news
And really believing it's there to do all their thinking for them
And if it's not mentioned on the mainstream music, can't be true
Oh boy, okay
That's how simple it is
So 50 years ago the public were suspicious of media
Because they knew media in the different papers, left wing, right wing and up and down and all the rest of it
They all had their little spins and agendas or their ways of covering stories
According to their particular view on things
And they also knew they were all private organizations you see
And big money was always viewed with suspicion
Especially anything to do with the mind and information has to do with the mind
But today they've been so well, they've been brought up with television
I mean, honestly brought up with it as weaned them, as weaned them till they're adults
And Brzezinski said that
Weaned, did you say weaned them?
Yeah, that's right
They're probably their babies sat by the television
And they go to kindergarten and even have, look at kindergarten
Schools now, they all have the satellite antennas on top
So they can watch their favorite cartoons and so on and get the same indoctrination
And so, and again with the standardization of all education
Worldwide, it's not just nationals worldwide
You bounce your ideas off anybody across the planet
And if they come back partying at six o'clock news
And it suits your views then you judge yourself sane
That's how we judge ourselves, sane by bouncing ideas off other people
I see
So if they have a six o'clock news version of the world
And everybody else does, then we must all be right, that's what they think
But really Brzezinski said that himself, in his own book
The public would shortly be unable to reason for themselves
They can only parrot what they've been downloaded with on the previous nights news
You know, I saw a quote, sometimes when I'm pulling up emails
I think about making notes just to mention some of these things that I get
There was a statement by Brzezinski
And I don't recall if there was a date
But in my mind as I was reading it, I was under the impression that it was a fairly recent quote
And he was talking about, I ran in a favorable way
And I thought, what in God's name is going on?
And there were articles, because I subscribe online
Washington Post, New York Times, and the Toronto Star
And USA Today, and I just do a rundown
Just take a look at their, you know, take a look at the headlines
And there's their, I'll tell you what it reminds me of
They're just saying a lot of stuff now
And then you try to figure out, OK, why are they airing this?
And I think back of the protocols where it's said that, you know, the people will want peace
And rest from the terror and the chaos
And they're going to, in the protocols
I wish I had it handy, I could read it because I've got it bookmarked
But basically they said that the people are going to get so irritated, so angry
And with their government
That they won't, in other words, to hell with it all
And then they'll accept our international super government
Yeah, they try to break the will down through anxiety
And they understand, except on so many tests on animals and just as many humans as well
That we can only take so much stress continuously
Especially when it's not resolved, you know, unresolved stress
It builds up until you end up like Pavlov's dog
You just sit in the middle and you shake because you can't see a way around it all
And that's what they want, then when a savior comes along
With an answer and says, there, there, don't worry, go back to sleep, I'll take care of it
Yes
We do
The king desperate of the blood of Zion
That's their, they said it'll be the pope of the world
Oh well, they can have their pope as well
They're king desperate of the blood of Zion
So you see, they're now, so much is coming out in the media
That it's making people angry with the US Congress
With the economic system, of course
But the blame is starting to be laid now
On these agencies and these individuals
And it, I believe that that's what they're doing
Yeah, they also like to almost, well it's back between the crisis
Until we were off guard and then hit you fast again
Fast and hard with something else
And we're glopping down on this roller coaster
And that's another technique of breaking you down too
Nobody, I don't believe anybody was expecting what happened on September 11th, 2001
They said the ones that planned it
Right, exactly
It was a shock, I was in shock, literally
And I thought about this because there's always these threats of nuclear
You know, they're gonna nuke Iran and they're gonna nuke Syria
And Israel is using nuclear weapons now
And I think that fear is being put into people
And they'll do something totally off the beaten path
That will be terrible
And shocking the people and throw everybody back into a state of paralysis, I guess you would say
And it probably won't be a nuclear explosion
And I pray that it doesn't
But there's been too many threats of it
I guess that's what I'm thinking
Oh, I know, they cry of wolf so many times
They cry of wolf
And you remember too that in the early 90s the Cold War was over
Yeah, the Cold War, I know
During the whole Cold War we never had
And most countries never had any practice for anything
There was no real setup during rehearsals in public for a nuclear war
With ambulances and firemen and police and military
And in 95, across Canada and other countries as well
Even in small towns in the last place I lived in
It's a potato town basically
I went in one day and in 95, and there's this emergency response drill
With people as actors pretending they were hurt and injured
And firemen near, police there, military there
And I asked one of the guys, what's all this?
This is all a practice in case someone put a bomb out of outside Baxter's laboratory
And I thought, what's going on here?
I said, this is the Cold War, it's over
We never had this kind of drill during the Cold War
What's happening?
And then of course Margaret Thatcher
Just a few years before it
In her speech at Massey Hall in Toronto
Which was entitled The New World Order
Her appearance there
In the newspapers
She said the next war will be on fundamentalist religions
Probably beginning in the Middle East
And I thought it all falls into place
In 9-11 came along after Brzezinski's book
The Grand Chess Board
And they get what they want
So it was all planned long before
I don't know if you've ever read Benjamin Friedman's talk
I think it was in 1963 or 1960
It was in the 1960s
And if you read that speech
You'd think the speech was being given
Well maybe was given a couple of three years ago
Because he said, right now as I'm speaking
They're planning a war, a long war in the Middle East
And they will be using your children
As the cannon fodder
I'm very proud to hear about that
Before World War II
I know
Right when you say Margaret Thatcher said it
A couple of years ago
It's been in the making a long time
I'm not going to go into religion here
You seem to want to stay away from that
I don't mean religion either
I'm talking spiritual issues
But I got an email today
And it was kind of an overview of a book
That was written, God is a lie
Or something like that
And I said this when I was writing
Jewish persecution
That it appears to me that
I was using Christianity as an example
Founded to be destroyed
In other words, there's so many lies in religion
That when people begin to find out the truth
The lies that they've been told
I said my concern is that
And what I believe they probably hope for
Is that people will throw the baby out with the bathwater
And this book is saying there is no God
And you see, he goes back into the Old Testament
And he mentions how Jehovah lovingly
Commanded that Abraham should kill Isaac
His beloved son
And the way the article about it is written
The guy makes a case for people
To say there is no God or creator
In other words, it's science
And then this whole universe is physical
And all the laws of the universe
Are the laws of physics, see
So there is no higher being
And I thought when I was reading it
And he brought all the religions in
It wasn't just Christianity
It's just like this, you see
There is no, quote, God
And that, above all things
In my mind would leave people
At least in their hearts
Well, they believe in the religion
That they were born into
Or that they settled on
They believe that they want to hang on
To whatever it is that they've been given
And not question it
And there are people now
Who are just totally confused
It's like what is truth, what is there?
Yeah, that's why they're doing all the searching
And going into all the different groups
And following gurus
It's something to fill the gap
It's been left, the whole has been left really
And of course the whole new age cult
Or whatever they're involved in
Which is all new age
Was designed by the same people
Who control the old religion
Well, the new age, yeah
But we have to be careful there
That, you know, just anybody who
Anybody who finally rejects
Religions that were made by man
And begins to seek the higher spiritual truth
It doesn't necessarily mean their new age
Not much if they follow the same formulas
I don't know, well what formulas
Would you be talking about?
Well, there's always a master, like a guru
Okay
And now guru in India
Is also a god, by the way
Your personal guru is a god
I see
And it's the same thing here
They created the new age movement in the 60s
Really pushed it in the 60s
From the top down
And it was sung to the music
To the true music and so on
They set the Beatles off
To get it all, the ball rolling
And sure enough all the followers follow
That's what followers do
They can't think for themselves
And they want these guys, our heroes are doing this
There must be a truth in there
And that got the Maharishi set up
All the magazines went in the action
At the same time, all the newspapers
Just how wonderful it was
And at the same time you had guys being interviewed
Pop stars and rock stars
Who were stoned out of their skulls
Doing interviews on mainstream TV
Falling off chairs
And then the interviewers were laughing
Or TV, he aren't the naughty type thing
Because it was meant to get all the youngsters involved
If they made this curvatureal change
From the old religions into the new
And the Scottish Rite of Freemasons
The high ones, the Rite of Perfection
Their magazine was called
And you age back in the 1950s
And they said they would bring in
And you age with a movement
And that was it
I don't know if you're aware of this
And I don't know how you feel about it
But when you talk about people
They just find someone else to follow
You've become in a sense a guru to a lot of people
I wonder how you...
If you're aware of that
People that I talk to
It's almost as though you're next to the messiah here
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I tell everybody
They've got to check everything out for themselves
And it isn't that you show them
Or point them in a way
And see, here's a formula
And people unfortunately are trained
In regular religions too
To go through formulas
Yeah, formulas
Everything's practical and so on
So they've been trained in formula, ritual
And it's a very human thing
To almost want this mass movement of ritual
When you say ritual, would you...
That's a real broad...
Would you...
I'll predetermined
Physical movements with
Sequential, verbal responses
To phrases that are put out there
Just like they do in the churches
Who wants a game of dominoes, not me
With that type of thing
You made a statement one time
And this was back some time in the spring
We were talking
In fact, I had read something that
You had said to Effie and
It was so important that I had transcribed it
And read it
And you said, well, I...
That's only meant for one person
And you know, you said I talked to people
One on one
My concern of course is, and as I said
You can't talk to everybody
Not every single person
So to withhold truth
That you know are true
It saddens me for them
You have to though, you have to
You can't give ultimate truth to people
Unless they're prepared
To see what you're giving them
Because if you don't prepare them
Individually they can't see what you're giving them
What you said to Effie though
Was something that you had said on the air
Several years even prior to that
You said it on the air
But then you said that
You talk to people one on one
And you're deprogramming them
And then you reprogram them
And you know, I didn't...
That kind of slid by me
When you said it and then I got to thinking about it
Who has the right to program anybody?
The thing is, all you can do is start them off
You start them off and you let them
Search out themselves
But is that what you would...
Most people what they do
Reprogramming?
No
Most people what they do
Is they choose a religion
They choose the religion they'd already wanted
That's what the whole New Age movement says
That they go shopping for religion
Really, they're looking for the one
They've already chosen
They've already picked an advance in there
And they want something with no boundaries
Number one
No rights or wrongs
Or don't do's or do's
Is that part of the New Age movement?
Yeah
So in other words, the New Age movement
Does not teach that as we so so shall we reap
Oh, they'll say certain things like karma
But it's almost like a credit card system
Where you can do now and pay later
Okay
Yeah, the karma thing
I mean, the whole New Age movement
Is taken directly from Hinduism
All of it
The channeling
The different types of meditation with a chance
Repetition and chance
Bringing in different guides
Or power animals or whatever it happens to be
People call it shamanism here
But they have the same thing in India
But you don't reject shamanism, do you?
Well, unless you...
Why shouldn't you reject it?
Number one
Well, I ask you that because you have spoken with
The shamans
Some of the shamans that have come to visit you
It's just almost like you're saying
Don't you accept the religion?
No, no
Is shamanism a religion?
Yeah
Okay, well, what about the shamans
Who have the inner knowledge and the wisdom
Because there are some
And you've spoken with them
The ones who have any kind of real, real, real insight
Into things
Have been moving away from society
And people over the last ten years
Right
Because they don't want to be around people anymore
They don't want visitors
And now you have the tourist ones
They can go and pay your money
And you'll leave some tobacco smoke in your face
Yeah, and see, I'm not referring to that
I'm referring to the ones that you've spoken to
Seemingly very, very wise
Oh, yeah
And you always find as well that they're pretty
You like their solitude
And I think that's the only way you can go
Because we're so bombarded
We've never had a period in history
We are so bombarded from the minute you get up
To go to bed with electronic sound
Yeah
You know, people actually switch on the radio
First thing in the morning
And the topics to fill their head are given right to them
They have no say in the topics, it's downloaded into them
They drive to work listening to it
Sometimes at work they even listen to it
And the same thing going back home
Then they watch TV for the rest of the night
Their whole waking time
Is taken up with someone else, different people
Professionals at that, companies
Broadcasting thoughts and ideas and opinions
Right into their mind
And they don't even participate
And the answers themselves are bombarded
So, people today
A lot of people, I think you mentioned it yourself
And you some, they can't go to sleep without
The TV or the radio on
A lot of people are becoming that way now
Yes, I know
They're scared stiff of silence
And then we're talking
Probably
I, from the conversations I've had
With so many listeners over the past ten years
And letters that I've received from them
I find Alan that we all seem to have a lot in common
As the people who have listened to Sweet Liberty
And I'm not saying every one of them
But it seems that the people who began listening
And stuck in there
Even when WWCR was sabotaging
The heck out of our reception
They've always been
More into natural foods
Gardening, if they don't garden
Then they seek, you know, more natural foods
They've never been big TV watchers
Most of them I don't think even went to college
And they're just, it's, you know
It's like maybe it's a magnet
The saying birds of a feather flock together
But I believe that the people who listen
To Sweet Liberty are here because
They are seeking the truth and they're not looking
For another guru
Or not looking for another religion
But in their hearts
Truly want to know what is what
What is truth
And we have to take a right here
I just want to differentiate
Between the majority of the listeners
And the people in the back
You know, you were describing
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With a fiction, haven't we Alan?
I know, there's so many of them
Excuse me
It occurs to me that
It's obvious I seem to have a head cold here
I was wondering for the dot or the vinegar
No, not the vinegar
This doggone thing started yesterday
At least it's staying in my head
And that's a blessing
You know, for me, of course
Because that silly lung thing I get
But no, it's just I'm very, very nasal
I remind you a lot of people
I get it too with the rains
At this time of year
Really?
I never mind the stuff they're adding to it
But yeah, normally I get that anyway
Because a lot of the leaves are dying
And some of them turn to powder
Yeah?
There's mold out there
Isn't that kind of like an allergy, though?
Yeah
I've never at least had any known allergies
I think this is just a head cold
You know, I remember
Maybe a couple weeks ago or whatever
I started to say something
And you said you didn't really want to get into it
But Alan, in today's
In today's
In today
I can't think of anything
More important today
Than for people to begin to
Have an understanding of exactly what it was
That you said to Effie
And that you had said on the air
Sometime back in 99
Because when people realize that
They've been lied to
It's this conversation that I've had with listeners
That are so concerned
Confused Alan
Oh, they have realized that
The religious most of
Well, religion itself
There are truths in the Bible
There are truths that are given
In every religion
Because otherwise they could never keep the people
You know
Taking it more
But I wonder if you
Because you had said it
Just exactly almost
The way you said it to Effie
And when I read it you said
You're opposing people's religions
And it's only for a one on one thing
And I get my wondering is
Why was it okay to say it publicly
To a shortwave audience
And we have people that are just
Spiritually sloundering
And I'm not saying that I have answers for people
I can only share with people
My understandings and experiences
That I've had, as you've said in the past
And I know that it's so we can believe
We believe by faith
But we know by experience
It's the only thing
The problem with any experience
Is that it's unverifiable to anyone else
Exactly
But it's something that we ourselves know
But my question is
Maybe you could explain this to me
Because you did say it
And then we have a whole new audience today
In fact, the audience that you said it to
By far and look
Basically were fundamentalist Christians
You know, the old New Testament
Every word is gospel truth
And you said it identically to that
And then when I read it on the air
You said it's only meant for one individual
Have you had second thoughts about that
Or that's what
Well, I've watched over the last few years
And I've talked to many, many people
I've even come back to nine to eight
And I know the ones who
Can understand on a particular level of understanding
That the basics of what's happening
And the wise things are happening
But also it's...
There's more to it than just the purely material world
That everybody's terrified of losing
And they are, you know
Exactly
There are people phoning me up now
Who you've definitely feared, nice people
Who are phoning me up and asking me
In desperation how they can
Get their money out of the country
Before it collapses and all this kind of stuff
And I'm saying to them
Look, I'd never, ever advise you on that
Because it's all nonsense anyway
What's happening is a global situation
And I said, it doesn't matter what you move to where
I said the new system that's supposed to come out of this one
Won't be using money as you know it
You'll be getting so many credits
And so will everyone else get the same amount every week
And you can't save them up
They're gone at the end of the week
However, they're desperate about all of this
I'll get ones phoning me about the draft
To try and get their sons out of the country
Well, that I can understand
Desperate, desperation
And to go into a spiritual side of things
You have to
They have to make their own personal decisions
Of course they do
I do understand that Alan
And many of the people you see
What they're really wanting
Is to keep this system going
As it is and don't get it
Don't let it get any worse in their lifetime
Just stop it right now
You mean a lot of people that you talk to?
Yeah
Okay, well, that's different
Because the conversations that I've had with people
Their concern is of a spiritual nature
And there is a lot of confusion
And you see the whole thing
What's to hear, that's earth to hear
It doesn't matter what you go into
Or how many, if you go off to South America
And pop drugs to get some experience
It isn't going to do you any good
As you wake up as yourself again
In the same old you and the same old body
Hopefully anyway
The next day
Wherever you go, there you are
That's right
And so what you have is
This is where spirit and matter meet
This is the deciding place
And you can't save one without the other
You see
This is the whole thing
In other words, you must act out
The thoughts that come to you
You must put into action
What is right through what you say
Is the spirit that comes to you
The quiet little inner you
That pushes, should I keep my mouth shut
And keep my head down
And just go along in the physical
Maybe they won't notice me
But you know yourself
You're coughing out
You have to act
Because whatever you do here
Is going to decide
If there is another life for you
Yeah
It's all decided here
Yeah
And again, lots of people
If you start encouraging a spiritual side
You bring millions of people to you
So what they're after really
Is complete escapism from here
That's the problem
Complete escapism from here
You mean here in the physical?
That's right
You wouldn't be
The amount of the new ageers who follow me
Who've been to all the different groups
And spent, God knows
How many thousands of dollars in each one
They don't want to look at the world at all
They really don't want to look at the world
As though it didn't concern them
Didn't concern them
They're in total denial
And that was part of the reason
The new age movement was created
So they wouldn't participate
In decision making in the world
Yeah
Yeah
And that's the problem if you encourage them
But when you say, wait, encourage them
It doesn't have to be encouraging them
Into the new age, the religion
Not if you understand at the very beginning
That I wouldn't impart anything to them personally
Unless I knew they were going to act on it
When you say act on it
Yeah
What act on what?
On ultimate truth
Is there a point having ultimate truth
And then sitting back and saying, well
It's like a Christian scene
I'm fine, I would say
Ah, gotcha
In other words, it's for them personally, not
Yeah, it's like they'll film that old song
This world is not my home
I'm just passing through
No, I don't
That's the old Christian song
No, I don't
Well, that's the same with the new age
They're taking themselves out of the game here
And they don't want to believe anything
There's anything to do with them
In other words, when they see the killing
The wars, the torturing
When they see the minds of the children
Now this, it's hard to believe
That they, do they say then
Oh, well, it's okay, this isn't all real
It doesn't matter what they're doing
To the children in the school
And that they're losing their minds
And their soul, what is happening to the soul
We have discussed this before
You know, because it's been thought in my mind
If it is, the mind is the gateway to the soul
And of course that is a statement attributed to Jesus
In the New Testament
Where he said fear not those who can kill the body
But fear those who can kill the body and the soul
And are you saying then
I guess I don't know any new age people
Because I have never heard this
That this all means nothing just because
Oh, well, this is an illusion
Yeah, yeah, you get that from a lot of them
And I get so many of them who've literally
Their minds are so strung out
And they're going to end up in psychiatry
And psychology and therapy
They're turning me up out of desperation
I've spent countless hours in the form of different ones
They've been through this absolute hell
Called the new age
And so I would never, ever encourage anybody
To be promoted
Well, of course not, Alan
Of course not
But see, I wasn't talking about the new age
I was talking about spiritual truth
Yeah
And that...
Well, see, a spiritual truth is a simple thing
Because it's something
That everyone, maybe except the psychopaths
Everyone could relate to it, immediately
So do you...
So, okay
The spiritual truth, particularly that I'm thinking of
Is where you said
On the air to a very large
Short-waveless audience
Fundamentalist Christians
That within every individual
Is the spiritual force
Yes, they want to use it
Yes, exactly
And you said that the...
You know, the ones today
That we see, that we believe are in control
That there is force beyond them
I believe that
It's been a sense
That there is a hidden power
That's pushing all this
And it isn't nice
But...
The people at least
Who are searching
And then they hear a mixed message
Because, you know, you've said
That within every individual
There is a spiritual force
And that these creatures
That are controlling in the background
Know it, they're aware of it
And their greatest fear is that
Enough people will find out about it
Yeah, enough people
To understand
What they're really doing
And that means they've gone through a process
Of reevaluating for themselves
That old thing called the meaning of life
For the purpose of life
Which is not the system that we're living in
And when they realize that
And really, they're not out to save a system
Because it wasn't theirs to begin with
It was given to them
And when they're willing to take a chance
Into the unknown
Then that they're ready for it
Most people really, as I say
Want to save this system
Because it's the only one they know
Even though it was given to them
Well, I'm speaking for those who have gone
Beyond that
And do realize it
And, you know
For myself
You and I have talked probably hundreds of hours
As I told you
From a little girl, my earliest memories
Laying in bed and quote
Talking to God at night
And asking a jillion questions
But there were certain things I knew
I knew
And then
Then I discovered
The knowing was there
It's almost like
Sometimes you read something, Alan
And it's
It
Strikes your memory
The memory maybe that we brought with us
Or the memory that is within us
And so
My search
Has progressed
As a result
Of reading, reading, reading, reading
The School of Metaphysics
I told you I was a student there
And I did have experiences
And they weren't magical experiences
And they were
They were real
But I needed
At least for me
See, maybe it's hard for you to relate to this
The memory is there
But it seems to take
Something
Something somebody says
Something you read
To bring that memory
Into your conscious knowing
Does that make sense
What I'm saying?
What it is
Is there
But you see, you have to be ready for it
You must have
You'll probably experience something in your life
And suddenly it will come to you
Because it fits the moment
It actually matches the moment
Whereas you hadn't had
That particular occurrence happened before
So that's
Your life is supposed to be
A journey of constantly growing
The train does
Only in the last 40 years
40 or 50 years
Probably 40 years
The train does
That old people are of no value
And yet
Before that
People who were elderly had the wisdom
And the knowledge
To guide the young
And so they were looked up to with esteem
And they were revered
So they reversed that
And he said that
Maurice Strong said at their summit
They'd have to destroy the last vestiges of the family
And once that was gone
Then government, the state could dictate
Directly to the individual
And no one would be there
To stand up for the individual
The family would be gone
That was always the goal of government
Yeah
So yeah
It's quite interesting that
Old men
Run this world
At least the visible ones that we see
Old men
To disregard elderly
And every other sphere
Yes, that is
Interesting isn't it Alan?
Yeah, because they're ancient
Oh yes
Do you believe that there are people
Living here
That have been here for maybe hundreds of years?
Yeah, I can tell you
It's awful boring
No, that wasn't a joke
Yeah, I know
Well, the reason I said that
You know, I was talking to Stephen Ames
He went into
Researching religions
And spiritual
Matters
Because he knew that there had to be something
You know, beyond what this
Is going on
What keeps driving it
I had a conversation one day and he said
I
I'm going to say something to you
And you're probably going to think I've lost my mind
He said, I believe
That there are people here
Who've been here for hundreds of years
And
You know, it didn't sound to me
Like he had lost his mind Alan
You know, with science
And with their longevity
Etc
David Suzuki
Who was one of the main spokesmen
For the big nation
Natural shows for brainwashing us into nature
Headed by
The World Wildlife Fund
And the United Nations
Who was a geneticist himself
Said on the CBC
National Television in Canada
About three or four years ago
It is we now have the capability
To stop the time clock
In the gene
To live to 500 years
Well, there you go
Whenever a truth
In this system is admitted
It's already
A fact
So we always get
Third-hand news
So it's not impossible
I know that
In the early 1900s
It cracked the genetic code then
Probably before then
Because Rutherford
Was the world's most famous mathematician
And he was a guy
They pulled in to do all the measurements
For the Great Pyramids and so on
And his own memoirs
Mentioned that he was employed
In his last years
To work on genetics
Now, you would not employ a mathematician
To work on genetics if you hadn't
Found the gene yet
It was only supposedly suspect then
So there's little giveaways
That they've tracked about
Yeah
You know what
When you made a joke and said
It's pretty boring
Who's joking, man?
Who's joking?
But not boring
But, oh my god
Who would want to be here
For 500 years, Alan?
Well, you certainly would never want to be here
For 500 years
If you were lived on the lower
Structure of society
Or a member of an elite
With perfect physical health
Living in the lap of luxury
Traveling the world
Do what you want
I can understand them
I can't
I can't
You know what, Alan?
No, I can't
Because
There is something there
Within
That's been buried and cut off
And anything you want to say
They
Are not alive
They are not living, Alan
If you cannot love
You cannot, you are not living
Yeah
And so I can't
For the only love they have is for themselves
Exactly
No, I can't understand
I mean, you know
To say, oh well
I can't live in luxury
And I can be healthy forever
Sure, I'd like to be here for
I can't
No, that wouldn't be my cup of tea, Alan
And it wouldn't be yours either
I don't think
Well, I'll tell you
There was a program just a few days ago
On the CBC
On the news, on the special report
And it was about some supposed
That a new treatment would inject fetal tissue
Into you to keep you young
And they were doing it
And I think it was China that were going to
Oh, they've been doing it?
Don't you think they've been doing that for a long time?
Oh, they've been doing it
I think that's with the brain stem
Research
I know
They make cocktails at them too
But the thing is, this woman
Had a, I don't know how many faces she had
But she was very wealthy
Her face was so tight
That was hardly a wrinkle, she couldn't close her eyes
And near she was off
To spend money to make her live longer
So there are people like that
I understand that, there are
But
And that cannibalism
I don't care if he eats it, it's injected into your
Whatever, that is cannibalism
Exactly
Oh, yes it is cannibalism
And you know what, that's in the Old Testament
It's one of the curses
Well, not only that
But it's one of the curses of Jehovah
You know, if you do my statutes
Yeah
There were, you know, a few paragraphs
About all the physical things
Material things you're going to get
If you don't do my statutes
I think there's about a page and a half
Allen
And one of them is
Amongst all the ugly, nasty,
terrible things
Is that
The parents will eat their own children
That's the curse of Jehovah
In the Old Testament
Well, you know what I got to thinking about
The
Genetically modified food
They're using human DNA
Human genes, they're using
They're using it
Animal genes
And I thought about this, I thought
You know what, they're doing it
They're doing it
We become cannibals
When we eat the genetically modified
Fruits and vegetables
Or you get your modern inoculations
They don't use animals now
To grow the viruses and so on
They actually use
Fetal tissue
Fetal tissue
I'm injected into you with the viruses
Under the guise of science
Sure
That's the new priesthood with the white coat
Sure
And people don't stop to think
What they're actually doing
Because we can train to believe anything
Which is scientific is good
And it's the biggest con out there
Really
It's a total belief system
Even though they keep changing their theories
On the same topics every few years
They still persist that it is a science
Yes
And the value
To this conversation
Of what you're saying right now
Is for people who may
Just be newly tuned in
That we're not just talking about
Some
Out there who are saying
They're doing it
They're doing it
And it can be proven
And it can be
Discovered, yes?
Absolutely
There's no big detective
Work to find this kind of stuff out
It's a horror story
Just looking back
Yes it is, that's why I think
It is important for you and I
When we do these broadcasts
To bring in
Every time I say this
You say well I'm not going to be a cheerleader
For this world
I'm not talking about cheerleading
I'm talking about
The importance
Of at least
Discussing
And sharing with our listeners
There's so much more
There's so much more
In this physical world
And there's so much beyond
Religion
And I've got to
If they want to be taught something
They must put it into practice
Hey let me ask you a question
If we could do tomorrow night
At the same time 9pm
Could you come on?
Oh goody
I think we're going to be able to do this folks
I had talked to Nicholas
And he said to let him know
And I am going to give him a call
I would like to pick this conversation up
Tomorrow
Where we left off the feed
Because Alan in my heart
To be there couldn't be anything more important
That we could share with our listeners
Thank you
And ladies and gentlemen
See you tomorrow night
And baby Alan and I
I'll be back on Sunday
Good night
Good night Alan
Good night
Thank you